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		<title>By: Barry Ritz</title>
		<link>http://dividendsvalue.com/1504/is-now-the-time-to-consider-long-term-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-2841</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Ritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am hesitant about placing my money in long term Treasuries. When investors start taking flight from Treasuries in a market upswing, the bubble burst can be rather nasty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am hesitant about placing my money in long term Treasuries. When investors start taking flight from Treasuries in a market upswing, the bubble burst can be rather nasty.</p>
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		<title>By: Dividends4Life</title>
		<link>http://dividendsvalue.com/1504/is-now-the-time-to-consider-long-term-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-2836</link>
		<dc:creator>Dividends4Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gardener: You think 5+% for a long bond will stick in this environment?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Best Wishes,&lt;br/&gt;D4L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gardener: You think 5+% for a long bond will stick in this environment?</p>
<p>Best Wishes,<br />D4L</p>
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		<title>By: The Gardener</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Gardener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  What an irresponsible and/or ignorant post.  If you lead just one naive person to buy into long or even intermediate term treasuries at these prices you&#039;ll have done much harm.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As has been pointed out here by others the prices have been pushed up (and thus yields down) to ridiculous levels from which you can lose a heap of money with very little possible upside potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  What an irresponsible and/or ignorant post.  If you lead just one naive person to buy into long or even intermediate term treasuries at these prices you&#8217;ll have done much harm.</p>
<p>As has been pointed out here by others the prices have been pushed up (and thus yields down) to ridiculous levels from which you can lose a heap of money with very little possible upside potential.</p>
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		<title>By: Monevator</title>
		<link>http://dividendsvalue.com/1504/is-now-the-time-to-consider-long-term-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-2828</link>
		<dc:creator>Monevator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link. Re: Your article, I think as you say it&#039;s very hard to do those sorts of things honestly. (It doesn&#039;t stop me trying either).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I set up a paper/model high yield (dividend) portfolio of UK stocks around November last year and I&#039;m dreading going back to it because value/dividend stocks have been hit so hard in the past 12 months. I suspect if you&#039;d done that analysis at the end of 2007 you&#039;d have got a different result.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Re: Utilities, in the UK at least they&#039;ve performed so well in the past few years (and held up reasonably well in the recent bear) that you can&#039;t help feeling they&#039;re due an upset. But I hold a water and an energy utility, and I regret the top-slicing I did with them, too!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;d suspect I&#039;d prefer them though as an each way bet on inflation / deflation, to government bonds.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Have you looked at corporate bonds? They&#039;re being touted as the big opportunity by some, but I can&#039;t help thinking if bonds do well from here, equities will soar. But they do look very cheap from a spread against government&#039;s perspective.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;No good in a new Great Depression, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link. Re: Your article, I think as you say it&#8217;s very hard to do those sorts of things honestly. (It doesn&#8217;t stop me trying either).</p>
<p>I set up a paper/model high yield (dividend) portfolio of UK stocks around November last year and I&#8217;m dreading going back to it because value/dividend stocks have been hit so hard in the past 12 months. I suspect if you&#8217;d done that analysis at the end of 2007 you&#8217;d have got a different result.</p>
<p>Re: Utilities, in the UK at least they&#8217;ve performed so well in the past few years (and held up reasonably well in the recent bear) that you can&#8217;t help feeling they&#8217;re due an upset. But I hold a water and an energy utility, and I regret the top-slicing I did with them, too!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d suspect I&#8217;d prefer them though as an each way bet on inflation / deflation, to government bonds.</p>
<p>Have you looked at corporate bonds? They&#8217;re being touted as the big opportunity by some, but I can&#8217;t help thinking if bonds do well from here, equities will soar. But they do look very cheap from a spread against government&#8217;s perspective.</p>
<p>No good in a new Great Depression, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Dividends4Life</title>
		<link>http://dividendsvalue.com/1504/is-now-the-time-to-consider-long-term-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-2827</link>
		<dc:creator>Dividends4Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the link to Monevator&#039;s article:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://monevator.com/2008/12/08/government-bonds-an-exciting-new-way-to-lose-money-to-the-bear/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Government bonds: An exciting new way to lose money to the bear market&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the link to Monevator&#8217;s article:</p>
<p><a HREF="http://monevator.com/2008/12/08/government-bonds-an-exciting-new-way-to-lose-money-to-the-bear/" REL="nofollow">Government bonds: An exciting new way to lose money to the bear market</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dividends4Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dividends4Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill M: I have only 10% set aside for bonds and I have never made it it up that that amount.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;DGI: I believe there will be many bubbles to burst before this is over with. Stocks and bonds generally run counter to each other, but I can&#039;t stomach anything more than a 10% allocation. I view CDs as cash, not investments.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Monevator: Utilities have been good to me the last couple of years, and as noted in &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.dividends4life.com/2008/12/dividend-investing-vs-s-index-fund.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dividend Investing vs. S&amp;P Index Fund&lt;/a&gt; they outperformed the s&amp;P since September 1997.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Best Wishes,&lt;br/&gt;D4L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill M: I have only 10% set aside for bonds and I have never made it it up that that amount.</p>
<p>DGI: I believe there will be many bubbles to burst before this is over with. Stocks and bonds generally run counter to each other, but I can&#8217;t stomach anything more than a 10% allocation. I view CDs as cash, not investments.</p>
<p>Monevator: Utilities have been good to me the last couple of years, and as noted in <a HREF="http://www.dividends4life.com/2008/12/dividend-investing-vs-s-index-fund.html" REL="nofollow">Dividend Investing vs. S&amp;P Index Fund</a> they outperformed the s&amp;P since September 1997.</p>
<p>Best Wishes,<br />D4L</p>
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		<title>By: Monevator</title>
		<link>http://dividendsvalue.com/1504/is-now-the-time-to-consider-long-term-bonds/comment-page-1/#comment-2825</link>
		<dc:creator>Monevator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good overview, but I suspect treasuries are the next bubble to burst, too. You&#039;re correct though in my view that the Fed is going to try pull down long-term rates.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If I can be permitted a rare link, readers might like the case for bonds being in a bubble here:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://monevator.com/2008/12/08/government-bonds-an-exciting-new-way-to-lose-money-to-the-bear/&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For a dividend investor, I wonder if the utilities provide a decent compromise. The yields look low compared to general market yields (compressed) but I believe they also were massively bought in Japan&#039;s deflation. But at least you get some potential upside if things don&#039;t turn more inflationary, too, compared to bonds which would be massacred at these yields.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good overview, but I suspect treasuries are the next bubble to burst, too. You&#8217;re correct though in my view that the Fed is going to try pull down long-term rates.</p>
<p>If I can be permitted a rare link, readers might like the case for bonds being in a bubble here:</p>
<p><a href="http://monevator.com/2008/12/08/government-bonds-an-exciting-new-way-to-lose-money-to-the-bear/" rel="nofollow">http://monevator.com/2008/12/08/government-bonds-an-exciting-new-way-to-lose-money-to-the-bear/</a></p>
<p>For a dividend investor, I wonder if the utilities provide a decent compromise. The yields look low compared to general market yields (compressed) but I believe they also were massively bought in Japan&#8217;s deflation. But at least you get some potential upside if things don&#8217;t turn more inflationary, too, compared to bonds which would be massacred at these yields.</p>
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		<title>By: Dividend Growth Investor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dividend Growth Investor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The TLT etf yields about 3.9% right now. I guess the bond market bubble will be the next one to burst.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for fixed income allocations, I like keeping it in CD&#039;s, which don&#039;t appreciate if rates drop, but always have your principal protected, even if rates were to increase..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you are a total returns investor, a 50/50 allocation of SPY/TLT could be ok for you.. If you are a dividend investor, however, then rising dividend stocks are the way to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The TLT etf yields about 3.9% right now. I guess the bond market bubble will be the next one to burst.. </p>
<p>As for fixed income allocations, I like keeping it in CD&#8217;s, which don&#8217;t appreciate if rates drop, but always have your principal protected, even if rates were to increase..</p>
<p>If you are a total returns investor, a 50/50 allocation of SPY/TLT could be ok for you.. If you are a dividend investor, however, then rising dividend stocks are the way to go!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a big beliver in bonds, in today&#039;s market, they usually have the volatity as some of the safe equities and without the growth potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a big beliver in bonds, in today&#8217;s market, they usually have the volatity as some of the safe equities and without the growth potential.</p>
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